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PostTopic: Isandlwana cultural centre   Fri Jul 15, 2016 eight:33 am


A few of you’re little question conscious of the plans relating to the cultural centre at Isandlwana, for these of you who have not seen the mock-up of the buildings and improvement check out [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

I’ve heard from a Zulu good friend of mine that a grave apparently containing European and African stays has been uncovered through the course of getting ready the location.  I do not know if any of our South African members can confirm this?

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PostTopic: Re: Isandlwana cultural centre   Fri Jul 15, 2016 eight:40 am


I sincerely hope to God that abortion shouldn’t be erected inside website of the battlefield. Potentialy one other white elephant just like the Blood River construction. JY do you will have the proposed location?

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PostTopic: Re: Isandlwana cultural centre   Fri Jul 15, 2016 eight:51 am


Frank,

Simply outdoors of the battlefield gates I am afraid.

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PostTopic: Re: Isandlwana cultural centre   Fri Jul 15, 2016 eight:59 am


The previous beer corridor was much less influence than that, simply so bloody typical of this authorities. I might assume that a shut relative of Zuma has been awarded a completely overpriced contract !

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PostTopic: Re: Isandlwana cultural centre   Fri Jul 15, 2016 9:13 am


Frank,

Your point out of that beer corridor introduced a smile to my face. Isandula do you keep in mind our assault on the bottle retailer there on 22nd January 1999?

Apparently the SA Lottery has stumped up a number of bob, nevertheless I’ve been knowledgeable, KwaCulture have additionally been making approaches within the UK for funding sources.

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PostTopic: Re: Isandlwana cultural centre   Fri Jul 15, 2016 9:23 am


Pint bottles of Carling Black Label John? Heat at that

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PostTopic: Isandlawan Cultural Centre    Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:33 pm


Hello Frank
I took some photograph’s of the proposed space final Oct/ Nov once I was there , I am going to ship them to you if you want ? , be happy to publish them right here as properly when you’ve got the inclination .
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PostTopic: Re: Isandlwana cultural centre   Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:48 pm


90th,

I’ve requested “The Major” to look within the matter concerning the grave. He has knowledgeable me that he took a celebration from the centre “on a patrol” as they wanted an introduction to the battle.

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PostTopic: Re: Isandlwana cultural centre   Fri Jul 15, 2016 three:09 pm


Thanks Gary, e mail them and I’ll publish to the discussion board.

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PostTopic: Isandlwana Cultural Centre    Fri Jul 15, 2016 three:27 pm


Wonderful considering JY. Do you assume the discovering of this Grave might put a halt to this ridiculous scheme ? .
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PostTopic: Re: Isandlwana cultural centre   Fri Jul 15, 2016 four:40 pm


Sorry we appear to have had a cross over:
I posted this on the Bassage string
“Thanks Gary, Ive just had a look. That’s right over the firing line that the ‘dig’ ascertained. Its not on. JY needs to get onto the royal family and create some noise. Bloody nonsensical and downright disrespectful to those thousands of Zulu that died just there.”

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PostTopic: Re: Isandlwana cultural centre   Fri Jul 15, 2016 four:50 pm


This the world the chest attacked simply in entrance of the weapons
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PostTopic: Re: Isandlwana cultural centre   Fri Jul 15, 2016 four:53 pm


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PostTopic: Re: Isandlwana cultural centre   Fri Jul 15, 2016 four:55 pm


Because of 90th for the above photographs.

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PostTopic: Re: Isandlwana cultural centre   Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:14 pm


Frank,

I’m knowledgeable the challenge has the complete approval and sanction of the Royal Home.  My ordinary contact is due within the UK subsequent month, however he has been significantly ailing, and won’t have the ability to journey. If he does come I’ll ask him to precise our considerations, however I worry issues have progressed too far as the bottom has been gifted by a member of the Royal Home.

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PostTopic: Re: Isandlwana cultural centre   Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:23 pm


Lets hope they cant increase sufficient cash to pay the bribes……………………..

LH
Thanks for that its very informative. What it does not make point out of is the Pollard survey that dug in that actual space and situated the firing line. Im sending a replica of that dig documentation to them.
As my Aussie is need to say: “it aint over till the fat bitch sings”

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PostTopic: Re: Isandlwana cultural centre   Fri Jul 15, 2016 6:11 pm


Littlehand,

Likewise thanks, particularly because it consists of info which appears to confirm what my supply has given me to be right.

As an apart. Whoever offered that textual content to them must brush up on their information, as he/she has positioned Captain G. Barton at Isandlwana, not to mention having the ability spell Glyn appropriately. Ye Gods!

As I advised a Zulu the opposite day when he was discussing a proposed monument to the fallen, I reiterated the phrases Let the mountain be their monument…. An expression he had by no means heard earlier than. Then he requested what ought to turn out to be of the stays? I informed him there’s already a devoted place at St. Vincent’s – which additionally stunned him. He said he would inform KwaCulture of this.

I’ll chase him up subsequent week about this.

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PostTopic: Re: Isandlwana cultural centre   Fri Jul 15, 2016 6:13 pm


Frank Allewell wrote:
Lets hope they cant increase sufficient cash to pay the bribes……………………..

LH
Thanks for that its very informative. What it does not make point out of is the Pollard survey that dug in that actual space and situated the firing line. Im sending a replica of that dig documentation to them.
As my Aussie is need to say: “it aint over till the fat bitch sings”

“it aint over till the fat lady sings”

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PostTopic: Re: Isandlwana cultural centre   Fri Jul 15, 2016 6:15 pm


Admin,

That is Smoko’s (aka 90th) model that Frank has given there.

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PostTopic: Re: Isandlwana cultural centre   Fri Jul 15, 2016 6:30 pm


Say no extra!!!! Rolling Eyes
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PostTopic: Re: Isandlwana cultural centre   Sat Jul 16, 2016 2:15 pm


Ive been chatting to some individuals and the consensus is that this won’t be stopped. The primary cause being its a business enterprise somewhat than a heritage problem. the important thing factors are that there shall be a lodge and a tenting floor. The addition of the cultural appendage is a sop to get the remaining constructed.
So 90% moneymaking and a throw away micro try and validate all of it with a ‘cultural’ centre.
The royal household, the Buthelezi household and the Zuma gang ought to hold their heads in disgrace to even consider promoting their heritage and trampling over the reminiscences of people who died making an attempt to uphold their very own heritage.
Gone would be the particular feeling generated on the battlefield, gone would be the peace and solitude one feels strolling the firing line. Gone would be the respectfull strategy guests undertake. As a substitute would be the further visitors the sounds of music blaring from the camp website the nightime illumination and the attendant sounds of service automobiles.
Disgrace on you.

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PostTopic: Re: Isandlwana cultural centre   Solar Jul 17, 2016 1:18 am


Frank,

One thing in the past again in 2009 a few of the members of the Royal Home – these of my acquaintance – recommended that the Mangeni Falls space was the extra applicable for siting a cultural/interpretation centre for Isandlwana. Nevertheless the regardless of the Division of Transport is called in SA refused to help them in constructing a tarred street to the world. Their plans seem to have been hijacked as sure proposals made for the Mangeni website have been included into the Isandlwana website.

Does AMAFA not have any say within the welfare of the battlefield?

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PostTopic: Re: Isandlwana cultural centre   Solar Jul 17, 2016 eight:20 am


Morning John
I’m pursuing the difficulty, I can perceive the street to Mangeni being a problem that a lengthy troublesome street. To my thoughts a low unit on prime of the ridge someplace near the notch would have been the perfect place. The plot thickens truly when you think about there might very simply be a on line casino concerned as properly.
AMAFA would haven’t any say because the designated website falls outdoors of the Heritage Space.

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PostTopic: Re: Isandlwana cultural centre   Mon Jul 18, 2016 four:45 pm


That is horrible, what are the Zulu Royal Household considering of, have they been bribed?

The entire Zulu Nation ought to stand up towards this and cease this monstrosity from being constructed, it’s an outrage to the reminiscence of the fallen.

It makes my blood boil when issues like this occur to sacred locations corresponding to this, I hope that the spirits of these courageous males that died there come again and hang-out these answerable for planning this utter abomination.

Why do the ‘modern-day’ lot all the time need to destroy the previous, they appear to enjoy destroying peoples heritage and historical past, and substituting another type of garbage or ‘trendy take’ instead, it’s about time all this kind of factor was stopped.

You solely need to comply with the cash path to seek out out who’s behind this type of factor, it’s evil, pure evil, and I hope that the Zulu individuals stand up towards this horrible destruction of a sacred monument.

Simply take a look at what occurred to Waterloo, it’s now only a huge mound, am I proper in considering that it was Wellington who was very indignant at what that they had executed to ‘his battlefield’, or am I considering of another person?

It might not be any use to anticipate any response from this so referred to as ‘authorities’ of ours, even when we campaigned to attempt to cease this, they do not take heed to the individuals any extra, despite the fact that we the individuals are purported to be their bosses, we do in any case pay their excessive wages however they only ignore us, in any case, we’re simply the plebs to them, in different phrases expendable ‘cannon fodder’.

This can be a complete outrage, and is a really shameful deed to do to this historic battlefield, and I hope that the perpetrators of this get horrible nightmares from the spirits of the courageous males that suffered and died there.

These evil folks that have derived this ghastly concept ought to cling their heads in disgrace, and I hope they endure for it, they need to keep in mind that despite the fact that this may make them some huge cash, they can not take it with them once they depart this earth, however there once more, greed appears to be the ‘in factor’ with these NWO lunatics that may destroy our world if we do not cease them.

This should not be allowed to occur, the Zulu individuals should get collectively and attempt to cease this.

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PostTopic: Re: Isandlwana cultural centre   Mon Jul 18, 2016 11:29 pm


John Y.

Is there any means in any respect that you simply assume that we right here in Britain can get this info out to the overall publics consideration. There have to be many individuals right here who’re very within the AZW and would help a petition to get this horrible eyesore stopped or no less than moved to another place. I’m positive that nearly all the members and friends on the discussion board will help such a petition, the issue is nevertheless, would this authorities of ours do something about it?

Are there any ‘authorized brains’ members on the discussion board who may give any recommendation on this matter, and put collectively a petition in protest towards this destruction of an historic battlefield, is there something that may be completed to cease them constructing this monstrosity, in any case, it’s a kind of grave yard to many courageous males, and is it not sacrilege to disturb the lifeless in a grave yard of such importence to historical past.

We and the Zulu individuals ought to be a part of forces and condemn the planners and have this horrible eyesore thrown within the dustbin and cease it from being constructed.

Respect for the lifeless seems to be meaningless lately, the planners of this could grasp their heads in disgrace, evil individuals.

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PostTopic: Isandlawan Cultural Centre    Tue Jul 19, 2016 three:24 am


Hello Martin
I consider it is being run by the King , principally a Sth African heritage factor to comb away the final vestiges of Colonialism , it’ll irreversible so I have been advised , one can solely hope the locals are up in arms , even that wont halt its completion .
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PostTopic: Re: Isandlwana cultural centre   Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:24 am


Martin,

In the event you check out these previous information gadgets it’d help you with King Goodwill’s emotions on the matter:
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Personally, I do not assume the locals shall be up in arms as no less than a few of them might be employed on the centre.  With little different employment alternatives within the space I would not anticipate them to complain too loudly.

I worry that we’ve got learnt too late to do something helpful to stop this from occurring.

Ken Gillings is the discussion board’s man on the bottom there maybe he might give us an replace, as he seems from the doc that LH posted to have had some enter within the challenge.

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PostTopic: Re: Isandlwana cultural centre   Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:06 am


Hopefully I’ll have a response from Ken later at this time.
I might agree with John, there will probably be no complaints regionally and there shall be no disagreement with the King both, that a lot has been made completely clear to me. I suppose we should always rely our blessings, at the very least its not beinb constructed on the mountain slopes or the saddle.

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PostTopic: Re: Isandlwana cultural centre   Tue Jul 19, 2016 eight:52 am


The deadline for submissions is TOMORROW so if anybody goes to object that’s your time-frame.
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PostTopic: Re: Isandlwana cultural centre   Tue Jul 19, 2016 9:53 am


If there are not any objections I’ll later at present submit the next letter of objection. I do know its in all probability going to fall on deaf ears however I do really feel there ought to be some type of objection.
If there any objections I’ll take away point out of the discussion board and submit in my very own capability. Because the objection interval closes tomorrow Im afraid time is of the essence.

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Historic Background

The primary background has been coated within the EIA in broad strokes nevertheless the location choice has extra significance than talked about.
When the uKhandempemvu charged down from the heights the British weapons and rifles minimize them to shreds inflicting large casualties. The impi went to floor within the hole under the slope, this was witnessed from the heights and certainly one of their iziduna, Ndlaka, rushed down and strode to the entrance in plain view of the British rifles. This courageous warrior ignored the gun hearth he attracted from the whole British firm dealing with him to shout out to the huddled impi: “The little branch of leaves that puts out the fire ( Cetshwayo ka Mpande’s praise name) did not order this.” As he completed the British bullets discovered their mark and he died shot by way of the top. The corporate rose and charged the British inspiring  Sizikane kaNomageje an induna of the iNgobamakhosi to name out :”Why are you lying down? What was it you said to the uKhandempemvu? There are the uKhandempemvu going into the tents, stop firing and go in hand to hand!”
This then was the important thing second within the battle when the British strains have been damaged and the Zulu Impi gained the battle.

Location

The world charged by the uKhanempemvu and the iNgobamakhosi is the world that the proposed improvement will cowl.

The Floor

The bottom coated by the proposed construction on its japanese part is the world that the British strains first occupied and the world that the road was damaged. It’s this space that was most hotly contested. After the struggle was over the Reverend Johnston spoke of the piles of bones and artefacts on the floor. That is additionally the world that the primary British casualties occurred from the artillery and the instructions of Porteous and Wardell.
The outlying areas of the battlefield have been the final to be cleared of our bodies/bones it’s subsequently extremely possible that the foes have been interned in widespread graves.

The Graves

There have been numerous graves in that space, your analysis has uncovered some eleven, though one among which I think was the results of the Archaeological dig carried out By Anthony Pollard that established the firing line place. The map drawn in 1883 by Alfred Boast signifies quite a lot of cairns erected in that space.

The Graves Significance.

As each Sizikane kaNomageje and Ndlaka have been killed it’s extremely possible that their our bodies lay with numerous their males beneath the bottom that this improvement will cowl. Two very courageous and senior males to whom the true victory of iSandlwana ought to be credited. With out these two males appearing to make sure the orders of their King have been obeyed there would have been no Zulu victory. The final victory of significance to belong to the previous order.

It’s due to these two, the Final loyalists, that lay interned in that space that I might urge a rethink by King Goodwill Zwelithini on this hallowed floor. Certainly a construction on the ridge can be extra applicable and extra putting than displaying this quantity of disrespect to the conflict of 1879s bravest warriors.

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PostTopic: Re: Isandlwana cultural centre   Tue Jul 19, 2016 12:08 pm


Very properly stated Frank, you state the case succinctly however with an undertone
of deep ardour.. i’m wondering what number of vacationer ‘ dollars ‘ have benefited the
native space during the last forty odd years.. it’s in fact a bloody shame
that a system alongside the strains of the Commonwealth Graves Fee
was not arrange a few years in the past..i really feel a deep sense of anger at this very
unhappy flip of occasions..its so unhappy that folks overlook so simply!. cash, cash,
cash.. in a wealthy mans world..

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PostTopic: Re: Isandlwana cultural centre   Tue Jul 19, 2016 1:15 pm


I’ll await a few hours to see if anybody objects if not
i’ll ship of.
As I stated Gary, in all probability will come to nothing however Mommy by no means raised a quitter.

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PostTopic: Re: Isandlwana cultural centre   Tue Jul 19, 2016 2:16 pm


I’m fairly completely satisfied together with your submission because it stands Frank, though I might not be fairly so damning about motives as some appear to be (I hasten to say your submission is ok in that regard). I doubt that very a lot vacationer cash has ever reached the native inhabitants through the years and I don’t begrudge them the chance for employment. What’s improper is the situation, and maybe there’s a legitimate criticism that may be manufactured from those that drew up the boundaries of the  battlefield website within the first place (my understanding is that the brand new centre is to be constructed outdoors of that boundary?). So your suggestion of putting it on the ridge is probably an important factor of the submission. It’s all the time clever to make a constructive suggestion for change somewhat than second guess the motives of those that are supporting the enterprise.

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PostTopic: Re: Isandlwana cultural centre   Tue Jul 19, 2016 four:27 pm


Ken Gillings has made in all probability the most effective suggestion however Im afraid Im not at liberty to disclose it but. When it comes to vacationer cash spreading out to the native inhabitants there are areas of employment which were created within the inns, store and the museum. However as John identified earlier there is not loads of alternative within the space, it’s a fairly poor space.
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PostTopic: Re: Isandlwana cultural centre   Tue Jul 19, 2016 four:56 pm


If there are numerous lifeless troopers and warriors buried there, wouldn’t it not be classed as ‘desecration of a struggle grave’, and in that case, might that not be used to attempt to cease this undertaking or at the least get it moved to a different place close by.

I’m wondering what Ian Knight makes of all this, has he been making any objections towards this eyesore?

This Zulu King appears to be extra focused on getting compen and making piles of dosh than he does concerning the sprits of his courageous ancestors resting in peace.

Appears that Les is right when he says cash, cash, cash, and like I stated in an earlier submit, simply comply with the cash.

Greed appears to be explanation for all of the worlds issues, because the saying says, “The love of money is the root of all evil”, appears like there as by no means been extra more true phrases spoken.

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PostTopic: Re: Isandlwana cultural centre   Tue Jul 19, 2016 5:35 pm


It’s nicely value studying the Heritage Report hyperlink posted by Littlehand which says quite a bit concerning the graves. For instance:

2 SCOPE OF WORK
This research goals to find and contextualize potential graves websites that relate to the Battle of Isandlwana that happen on or adjoining to the proposed improvement. In accordance with Dr Ken Gillings, a historian and Anglo-Zulu Warfare professional, the footprint is located within the neighborhood the place the British line collapsed when the Zulu military attacked (pers com eight February 2016)( see additionally Chadwick 1978) (Fig 5). It’s subsequently potential that there might be some human stays buried within the instant environs of the footprint. In 1928, this specific space was fenced off and cairns outdoors of the current perimeter fell into disrepair and in a number of instances have disappeared. Provided that the stays that have been situated in June 1879 have been buried 6 months after the battle, no matter might be discovered have been pulled collectively in heaps and stones piled above them. In accordance with Dr Gillings there’s a risk that Zulu and British stays are subsequently buried collectively on the world earmarked for improvement. Moreover, throughout 1958, a graves curator in ignorance flattened most of the cairns to make them seem as bizarre graves. These haven’t been maintained and relics are more likely to be uncovered when development commences. A part two heritage evaluation that features archival analysis and the evaluation of previous aerial pictures of the battle website might subsequently reveal the stays of these cairns. Based mostly on the importance, the doubtless influence of the proposed improvement on the recognized grave websites shall be decided and applicable actions to scale back the influence on the heritage assets put ahead.

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EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
A part two heritage influence evaluation and survey of the proposed Isandlwana Heritage Improvement recognized eleven graves, or the stays thereof, on the footprint. These most likely belonged to British troopers and Zulu warriors who have been killed through the Battle of Isandlwana though all floor proof for his or her presence have been eliminated in 1958. The person graves and graveyard have been afforded a excessive heritage score. It’s prompt that a buffer-zone of 10m be maintained round these potential grave websites and that the proposed Isandlwana Heritage Improvement be adjusted accordingly on the footprint. The second choice can be to encourage for a allow to exhume these graves however this feature would necessitate an elaborate group session course of and might be time consuming. Consideration is drawn to the South African Heritage Assets Act, 1999 (Act No. 25 of 1999) and the KwaZulu- Natal Heritage Act (Act no four of 2008) which, requires that operations that expose archaeological or historic stays ought to stop instantly, pending analysis by the provincial heritage company.

So no matter we’d assume, the query of the graves has been thought-about – and of their eyes correctly. There must be a superb argument that stands scrutiny whether it is to negate the strategy taken thus far. As KG has already been concerned I might be to listen to what he has in thoughts.

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PostTopic: Re: Isandlwana cultural centre   Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:09 pm


Steve your not studying my assertion together with your traditional consideration. Ive based mostly my objection on two iziduna of large fame being buried there moderately than simply graves. I do know that there are a selection of ‘lovers’ objections lodged.

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PostTopic: Re: Isandlwana cultural centre   Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:15 pm


Anyway my objection has been lodged. I need to emphasise although, my objection is to the situation not the idea. Im positive that a unit corresponding to this constructed on the ridge would rival the lodge for views and place. It might as well as present some a lot wanted work to the world.

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PostTopic: Re: Isandlwana cultural centre   Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:21 pm


Steve,

I learn the report the opposite night time with curiosity. Do you assume that a ten-metre buffer-zone is acceptable? Personally I do not. Perhaps I ought to apply for planning permission to open an ice-cream parlour alongside the Thiepval Memorial on the Somme? As a result of that’s what I liken this to.

Through the years I’ve been visiting Isandlwana I’ve seen many modifications – the Cola advert has gone, likewise the crashed cling glider has been faraway from Black’s Koppie. The interpretation centre at Saint Vincent’s was an enormous enchancment and I’ve seen it evolve. All of this was accomplished in a sympathic method. If the one the planners had troubled to seemed the intrepretation centre at Culloden for instance.

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PostTopic: Re: Isandlwana cultural centre   Tue Jul 19, 2016 eight:30 pm


Frank

Do not get me improper, I’ve no drawback together with your submission and I recognise that your drawing consideration to the possible presence of the Izidunas is an effective further argument to these addressed within the research. Such as you, I feel the issue is location not idea. What I don’t help (and I assume neither do you) is any trace of identify calling as a part of the response from the discussion board – it’s counter-productive and will not assist the case.

John

I do not know what distance is perhaps considered respectful. My solely level is  that the query of respect for the graves has been raised within the research and a suggestion made – as I stated, we might not agree with it, however it isn’t one thing we will say has not been thought-about. As to Thiepval, I’m not positive it’s a legitimate comparability – numerous graves on the Western Entrance have been exhumed and moved. Ice-cream parlour this isn’t, no matter our suspicions is perhaps. Did not you point out one thing about as soon as having fun with the liquor retailer?  Very Happy

Extra critically, the research makes some extent of claiming that the consultations required earlier than graves could possibly be re-located can be prolonged (and by implication unsure), so the advice that they need to stay is essentially one in every of comfort – which may nicely be an space to problem. The location wouldn’t be moved however the stays can be taken sufficiently distant and hopefully memorialised. The opposite implication within the research is that the boundary of the protected battlefield space has turn into smaller over time as cairns have been flattened and disappeared. That too is a really legitimate line of argument however in all probability a lot too late within the day to have an effect on this deliberate improvement.

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PostTopic: Re: Isandlwana cultural centre   Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:01 pm


Steve,

I definitely did not point out having fun with the liquor retailer, Frank’s point out of it introduced a wry smile to my face because it jogged my memory of an incident that Isandula and I shared.

I used to be clearly being flippant with my comparability, however that’s how I view it.

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PostTopic: Isandlawan Cultural Centre    Wed Jul 20, 2016 1:34 am


Hello Martin
I used to be and so have been many others conscious of the Cultural Centre being properly and really within the pipeline late final yr , as for Ian Knight , I can inform you he voiced his considerations in at the least two letters approach again in Oct and Nov , the reply was as I stated earlier …. ” Thanks , however no thanks ” . From what I can collect it is not a mass grave that was discovered , however a Cairn which had collapsed , so it is a grave of coarse , however not one which has an uncommon quantity of our bodies / bones and so on from what I’ve heard .
I am nonetheless wanting into it , hopefully we’ll be going again in Oct / Nov , and subsequently undoubtedly get the details .
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PostTopic: Re: Isandlwana cultural centre   Wed Jul 20, 2016 2:30 am


Hello Gary mate.

Many thanks for the knowledge my pal, a lot obliged. Salute

You’re such a fortunate bloke to be going once more to iSandlwana, I want I had the brass to go to earlier than this horrible factor is constructed, I really feel it should spoil the location and spoil the solemn nature of the place, which to my thoughts exhibits disrespect for the fallen, and I do know that you simply all the time say a number of phrases of respect to them on my behalf as I can’t get there, and I’ll all the time be grateful to you my pal for doing that for me. Salute

Battlefields have all the time meant rather a lot to me, they’re locations have been very courageous males gave their lives and died with nice honour, and they need to all the time be revered. I’ve by no means been to lots of them, however the ones I’ve been to all the time deliver a lump to my throat, I’ll all the time have nice respect for the fallen. You understand that I’ve been a member of the Royal British Legion for a few years, and I put on my Legion badge with nice delight together with my armed forces veteran badge. I’ve bought poppies and stood in all types of climate promoting them, and every November I all the time attend the remembrance service for our fallen, and that’s one other occasion that brings the lump to my throat, as you recognize Gary, I’m no marred arse, however with out fail, it all the time will get me. To me, that is simply sacrilege to destroy a spot like iSandlwana, why do not they construct this factor nicely away from the location and depart these courageous lads to relaxation in peace.

Once more mate, thanks for the data, I sit up for any updates you may get.

Cheers buddy. Salute

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